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		<title>Comment on Korean Schools by John Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could this be the equivalent of &quot;American Idol&quot; only in Korea?  Yes the competition is fierce. I once dreamed of status like that too (Ivy League, Harvard educated). It&#039;s easy for me to say this now, but this is a good grueling program if you believe the only thing in life is a top notched education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this be the equivalent of &#8220;American Idol&#8221; only in Korea?  Yes the competition is fierce. I once dreamed of status like that too (Ivy League, Harvard educated). It&#8217;s easy for me to say this now, but this is a good grueling program if you believe the only thing in life is a top notched education.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yet another math article&#8230;. by Michelle Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lot of issues with this article, too.  It is counter to everything I observe daily with my fourth and fifth grade students.  However, the article does address the issue of concrete learning followed by abstract concept by saying, &quot;Students who were presented the abstract symbols after teh concrete examples did better than those who learned only through cups or balls, but not as well as those who learned only the abstract symbols.&quot;

My main concern is in the graphic.  If this is one of the examples they used it&#039;s no wonder the concrete group did little better than guessing.  When one uses a &quot;real world&quot; example, one needs to make sure it conforms to the &quot;real world,&quot; otherwise it simply causes more cognitive dissonance.  I personally have never experienced 2/3 cups and 2/3 cups being combined to make 1/3 cup in the &quot;real world.&quot;  As an asside, I did have a student insist that 1/4+1/4 was 2/8 until we went into the kitchen and poured water into measuring cups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lot of issues with this article, too.  It is counter to everything I observe daily with my fourth and fifth grade students.  However, the article does address the issue of concrete learning followed by abstract concept by saying, &#8220;Students who were presented the abstract symbols after teh concrete examples did better than those who learned only through cups or balls, but not as well as those who learned only the abstract symbols.&#8221;</p>
<p>My main concern is in the graphic.  If this is one of the examples they used it&#8217;s no wonder the concrete group did little better than guessing.  When one uses a &#8220;real world&#8221; example, one needs to make sure it conforms to the &#8220;real world,&#8221; otherwise it simply causes more cognitive dissonance.  I personally have never experienced 2/3 cups and 2/3 cups being combined to make 1/3 cup in the &#8220;real world.&#8221;  As an asside, I did have a student insist that 1/4+1/4 was 2/8 until we went into the kitchen and poured water into measuring cups.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Link to study guides by zencath</title>
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		<dc:creator>zencath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading your post.

I remember reading something, I forget where it was, about how the times tables are not so much problems of arithmetic, but of language. We are having to manipulate the words &quot;seven times six equals forty two&quot; which bear very little relation to numbers as such. This is why most people, even those of high intelligence, can struggle with them, and often descend into savage self-criticism. Whereas if we see the numbers as a pattern, it is much easier to arrive at the correct answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading your post.</p>
<p>I remember reading something, I forget where it was, about how the times tables are not so much problems of arithmetic, but of language. We are having to manipulate the words &#8220;seven times six equals forty two&#8221; which bear very little relation to numbers as such. This is why most people, even those of high intelligence, can struggle with them, and often descend into savage self-criticism. Whereas if we see the numbers as a pattern, it is much easier to arrive at the correct answer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wired for math? by Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for an interesting read, I will definately read the article in its entirety, since I enjoyed reading the excerpts that you provided.

In regards to &quot;Dehaene conjectured that, when we see numerals or hear number words, our brains automatically map them onto a number line that grows increasingly fuzzy above 3 or 4. He found that no amount of training can change this&quot; does this mean that no amount of &quot;Brain Training&quot; programmes out there - such as the one for the Nintendo DS - are actually any good? lol

Stefan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for an interesting read, I will definately read the article in its entirety, since I enjoyed reading the excerpts that you provided.</p>
<p>In regards to &#8220;Dehaene conjectured that, when we see numerals or hear number words, our brains automatically map them onto a number line that grows increasingly fuzzy above 3 or 4. He found that no amount of training can change this&#8221; does this mean that no amount of &#8220;Brain Training&#8221; programmes out there &#8211; such as the one for the Nintendo DS &#8211; are actually any good? lol</p>
<p>Stefan<br />
(<a href="http://shoptilltheydrop.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://shoptilltheydrop.wordpress.com</a>)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome NCS parents and community by Welcome NCS parents! &#171; Math at the Neighborhood Charter School</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welcome NCS parents! &#171; Math at the Neighborhood Charter School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NCS&#160;parents! I hope this resource can benefit everyone.  I encourage you to read the introductory post to understand the premise of this site.  While I do maintain the Wordpress account associated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NCS&nbsp;parents! I hope this resource can benefit everyone.  I encourage you to read the introductory post to understand the premise of this site.  While I do maintain the WordPress account associated [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on More Resources by stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What great ideas! We too play games with our children at home to try and teach them how math plays into everyday aspects of our lives. We count &amp; sort legos with our kindergartener. We also play lots of card games and incorporate the 3rd grade math games from school into our own fun card games at home.

Thanks for the great ideas!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What great ideas! We too play games with our children at home to try and teach them how math plays into everyday aspects of our lives. We count &amp; sort legos with our kindergartener. We also play lots of card games and incorporate the 3rd grade math games from school into our own fun card games at home.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great ideas!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on American Math Scores vs. other countries in today&#8217;s NYT by stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working with both my children with this program and have noticed that it has been very difficult for my 3rd grader, even though we are working on the 2nd grade program, to comprehend some of the basic math principles I thought she had already mastered at NCS. Although I like the constructivist idea of teaching the children math in a way that they can have a better understanding and reasoning of why 2 + 2 = 4, i see my own child make many mistakes along the way. I feel that there are too many steps and paths in this approach which can lead to the wrong answer and in math we are graded on the answer and not on the steps which led to the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working with both my children with this program and have noticed that it has been very difficult for my 3rd grader, even though we are working on the 2nd grade program, to comprehend some of the basic math principles I thought she had already mastered at NCS. Although I like the constructivist idea of teaching the children math in a way that they can have a better understanding and reasoning of why 2 + 2 = 4, i see my own child make many mistakes along the way. I feel that there are too many steps and paths in this approach which can lead to the wrong answer and in math we are graded on the answer and not on the steps which led to the answer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Math Articles by More Resources &#171; Math at the Neighborhood Charter School</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Resources &#171; Math at the Neighborhood Charter School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome NCS parents and community by Guy Seymour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Seymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to set up a place where we can share our ideas and impressions about the math curriculum as it is the one thingh I hear lots of parents askling questions about. I am glad that this year the fifth grade is learning their times tables and look forward to the coverage of all the elements of what will be onthe CRCT. 
Best regards,
Guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to set up a place where we can share our ideas and impressions about the math curriculum as it is the one thingh I hear lots of parents askling questions about. I am glad that this year the fifth grade is learning their times tables and look forward to the coverage of all the elements of what will be onthe CRCT.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Guy</p>
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		<title>Comment on American Math Scores vs. other countries in today&#8217;s NYT by nkilkenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>nkilkenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post and sharing the Singapore curriculum. I&#039;m curious to take a look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post and sharing the Singapore curriculum. I&#8217;m curious to take a look at it.</p>
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